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CL - Net Czar callmeox
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jmmarton wrote:

callmeox wrote:

If a half hour of your time is worth $2.50 to you, I say go for it.


Probably more like five minutes, not a half hour... it doesn't take long at all to log into my account at the AT&T website and make changes.  Last time I made a change it was to add the movie package, and it took longer to reboot the STB to activate the channels than it did to login and make the actual change.

 

Joe




Sounds like a great way to save 2.50. Go for it.


 

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01-09-2009 06:07 AM
 
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Bauer007 wrote:

FuzioN wrote:

Maybe, but I doubt that that's the case. My take. :smileyhappy:

 



Your take would be wrong...


I am starting to think Bauer007 and I, are one in the same... lol

 

To second my frineds sentiments, FuzioN, your take is wrong.    For the record, Component on both Sony HD's, and HDMI on the Samsung and  Sharp HD's. 

 

No offense to FuzioN, but I am glad he didn't set up my U-verse service, ;-)

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01-09-2009 06:39 AM
 
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You can view HD programming via coax.  It is no different than taking an HD over-the-air antenna and hooking it directly to your TV.  You will still be able to receive the channel.  Coax to the STB then to the TV should work the same.  When I first got mine last year and was with Comcast, I hoooked the coax from the wall to my TV and was able to receive their unscrambled HD channels which at the time was nearly all of the ones they offered (minus movie channels).  The clarity was beautiful.

 

Someone mentioned receiving HD channels on their SD television.  I don't see how this is possible though.

 

Anyway, regarding the HD preview.  How many people actually invested the money on a big HDTV but do not subscribe to the programming on whatever service they're on?  I can't imagine they'll be reaching many people at all.

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01-09-2009 07:34 AM
 
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OK, there appears to be some question here in this thread with HD viewing methods.  Here's the deal:

 

First, there are two different connections that we're referring to:

 

1. The connection from the RG to the STB.  This connection can be either coax or Cat5e.  This is not relevant to the discussion, so forget about this connection for the moment.

2. The connection from the STB to the TV.  This is the connection that impacts HD viewing.

 

There are 5 ways to connect the STB to the TV:

 

1. Coax.  This is SD only (480i).

2. Composite.  This is the single yellow RCA connector.  It is also SD only (480i).

3. S-Video.  This is the 5-pin black connector.  It is also SD only (480i).

4. Component.  This is the 3 RCA connectors labeled Y-Pb-Pr (Red/Green/Blue).  This can carry an SD or HD signal (480i, 720p, 1080i).

5. HDMI.  This is the rectangular 19-pin connector.  This can carry an SD or HD signal (480i, 720p, 1080i).

 

The U-Verse STB will allow you to change to any channel (SD or HD) and will scale the picture so that the output works.  Thus, if you have changed to an HD channel (720p or 1080i), but you have a TV connected on #1, #2, or #3, the U-Verse STB will downscale the picture to 480i SD so that it can be sent out those connections.

 

This gives rise to 2 situations which are not optimal:

 

1. If you have an HD-capable TV, but you have this TV connected to the U-Verse STB via connection #1, #2, or #3, then you can watch any HD channel, but you will not be watching in high definition.  You will see the downscaled SD 480i picture instead.  This obviously takes away from the high definition experience.  For viewing high definition pictures, you need to use connection method #4 or #5.

 

2. If you have only an SD-capable TV, then you will never be able to view the HD channels in high definition.  You will always only be able to see the downscaled 480i SD picture.

 

 

The HD preview that is upcoming will not sell very many HD packages for people who fall into these categories.  They will tune to an HD channel and not see anything much different than what they've already been seeing on SD channels.

 

The only people who will really benefit from the HD preview are those people who have an HD-capable TV, have it hooked up through connection method #4 or #5, and who do not subscribe to the HD service.  I would think this would not be too many people, thus I question the sales benefit of this HD preview.

 

Now, someone also said that you can view HD programming via a coax connection to the TV.  In other systems, specifically some cable systems, and with an over-the-air (OTA) antenna, this is true.  However, U-Verse does not work like that, and you cannot get any HD signals via the coax (#1) connection.

 

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01-09-2009 08:45 AM
 
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Well said Joe!!  At least now I know I'm not crazy with what I said in my prior posts.:smileysurprised:  You said exactly what I was trying to convey.  Not very many people that don't already have the HD package will get any benefit from this free preview.  If they do have a HD TV and do not have the HD package I don't think they will be running to by an HDMI cable for the preview.
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01-09-2009 08:55 AM
 
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Thanks for the clairification, Joe.  I wasn't thinking about the signal going through the RG first.  Even then, I didn't think it would have made a difference.

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01-09-2009 09:23 AM
 
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Thanks for the clarification joe. That is exactly what I and beebee is trying to say. Good job!!! :smileywink:

 



 

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01-09-2009 11:58 AM
 
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Asimas wrote:
Will the preview include the HD Premium Tier ?  and mabye new additional HD channels.

As stated in the Uconnect video, you will only see the HD from the packages you are currently subscribed to.  Doesn't make any sense to have a free HD preview of the HD channels you already view.  SomeJoe's already listed the problems w/that logic of seeing HD if you don't have it already on an HD TV.  I think either ATT is misstating what we will see (all HD channels) or will go w/this poorly designed free preview plan. :smileywink:

 

Chris


I want Good weather w/radar & 6 day forecast -coming soon!
I want CBET Channel 9 Please NO SD stretch-o-vision HD Channels
1-800-983-2811 to avoid Mr. Voice Recognition

 

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01-09-2009 12:27 PM
 
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After some additional thought, do you think AT&T is trying to go after the folks that purchased (or received as gifts) new flat screen HD sets over the holiday's?  That would seem to make more sence. 
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01-09-2009 01:03 PM
 
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I can't imagine that there are that many people with HD sets and no HD service, though AT&T must be aware of a large enough group of them to have this promo.

To me, that would be like having a really nice car and keeping it on blocks in the driveway.

For someone to spend a grand or more on an HDTV and then not want to pay 10 bucks more a month for HD service seems a bit silly IMO.






 

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